Tuesday winners: Oregon and NW
Wed winners: Oregon, Washington, Indiana, Minnesota
Thur Winners: OSU, Wisc, Purdue, Minnesota
Fri Winners: Mich, Illinois, Purdue, MSU
Sat winners: Mich, Purdue
Sun Winner: Mich
Also: Bart Torvik blogs here.
Tuesday winners: Oregon and NW
Wed winners: Oregon, Washington, Indiana, Minnesota
Thur Winners: OSU, Wisc, Purdue, Minnesota
Fri Winners: Mich, Illinois, Purdue, MSU
Sat winners: Mich, Purdue
Sun Winner: Mich
Torvik and I were talking at the first round NCAA games this spring, and the topic came up about Gard's results, especially as it related to what we thought the possible outcomes could be on Dec 15th, 2015. At that time, Bo Ryan had just retired and while coming off back to back Final Fours, the team was reeling at 7-5 with embarrassing early season losses to UW-Milwaukee and Western Illinois at the Kohl Center. At that moment, it seemed like this could be the end of an era. Gard was known to Wisconsin Badger basketball fans, but was hardly a hot coaching candidate here or anywhere else.
A return to the pre 1994 era of desolation seemed very possible, although the improvements of the last couple decades to the basketball program and Badger brand in general made it not likely. An improvement over the Ryan era while theoretically possible, seemed like a 1% chance or less. Falling somewhere in between where NCAA tournaments are no longer guaranteed, championships rare, and really bad seasons are again possible seemed most likely. Torvik and I came to the conclusion that from that moment in Dec 2015, what has occurred is a top 10% result of what we imagined was possible.
Gard is 177-95 overall and 98-61 in Big Ten play over his 10 years (well 9 and 2/3). He has won 2 Big Ten regular season Championships, has 7 NCAA tournaments (would be 8 with COVID season), and 2 sweet 16s.
Where does he rank among coaches in the history of Badger basketball? Third. The answer is third.
Doc Meanwell and Bo Ryan are #1 and #2 in some order. It is difficult to compare eras, and which is which is a topic for another blog post. Gard is third. Dick Bennett and Bud Foster have an argument here for third largely based on their miraculous post season runs which Gard has yet to duplicate. Foster won the 1941 NCAA championship, but had a losing record at 265-267 overall and 143-182 in the Big Ten over his 25 seasons. Dick Bennett had just a 6 year run in Madison which culminated in that amazing run to the Final Four. He was 93-69 overall, and 39-45 in Big Ten play. We'll never know what might have happened if Dick had not burnt out and retired. He may have led many more Badger teams to greatness, but all we'll ever know is that it led to Bo Ryan, and greatness nevertheless.
As the Badgers yet again exited the tournament before the Sweet 16 this year, the narrative around Gard persists. His only 2 Sweet 16s came in his first 2 seasons, with players from the Bo Ryan era. Some will call his 10 years a failure because he has failed to return to the second weekend of the tournament. I am not one of them. All seasons end with a bitter taste in the mouth except for one team.
Gard is just 54 years old, and with deep ties to the state it seems likely he could stay at UW for another 10 years or more. I think Paul Chryst thought the same thing at one point, so obviously anything can happen. A couple bad seasons and any coach is gone. The NIL and transfer era is filled with uncertainty, and all the strong fundamentals the Badger brand has been built on could all be destroyed by the new system. That said, I'm more optimistic about the future for Badger basketball now than I was on Dec 15th 2015. The possibility of a return to 1948-1993 desolation seems less than 1%, the greatness of Conference Championships and deep tournament runs don't seem like a pipe dream. If the next 10 years include 2 Big Ten Championships, 2 Sweet 16s, and 177 wins, it will again be a great outcome.
I hope Gard makes a deep tournament run some day, because selfishly those runs are so much fun. There are so many great coaches that never get there though. I watched Gene Keady win tons of games and never get there, but the joy he brought to Purdue fans with all that winning is worth so much more. Perhaps I'm soft now that I'm old, but the joy of the journey is so much more valuable than the outcome of the final game. When your team is in the hunt, every game matters. When every game matters every game is fun. When your team is in the hunt, the dreams of what could be in between games brings fans and friends together. That journey almost always ends in pain, but that journey is amazing and I hope Gard gives me many more over the next decade.
Adam
Wed winners- Maryland and PSU
Thur winners- MSU, UW, OSU, PSU
Fri winners- Purdue, UW, ILL, Neb
Sat winners- Purdue, ILL
Champion- ILL
Here they are Torvik:
Wed- Neb over Minn, UW over OSU
Thur- Mich over Rutgers, Iowa over UW, Illinois over PSU, Neb over Maryland
Fri- Purdue over Mich, Iowa over MSU, Illinois over NW, Indiana over Neb
Sat- Purdue over Iowa, Indiana over Illinois
Sun- Purdue over Indiana
I don’t remember the last time I blogged about football, but with the Fickell hire it seemed like a good idea to post some thoughts. If for no other reason than so that Torvik can throw it back in my face in 10 years when I’m wrong.
First, I didn’t like how Chryst went out. I don’t know (and
I don’t think anyone else does either) what went down between Chryst and McIntosh,
but it doesn’t sit well. He averaged 9 wins a year and should have had a chance
to turn the season around. Good guy, good coach, got a raw deal at the end. It’s
entirely possible the criticism of Chryst is valid, and the program was going
downhill. The recruiting department took some hits, the offense was bad again, Chryst
seemed to struggle with diving into NIL and the dirty business this will entail
for college programs here on out. Still, he had a formula that worked at UW and
I think he would have continued rolling out 9 wins a year for the next decade
given the chance. We’ll never know what that universe would have looked like, nor
the one where Jimmy Leonard took over the program, nor the one where Chryst was
fired last year and replaced with Leonard like many wanted. So what are we looking
at. I’ll draw up 3 possibilities and what I think of each.
2) Fickell takes WI straight into the tank. This is the horror scenario, and I think we narrowly avoided this already when Gary Anderson left us (thank God). If you think this can’t happen just look at what happened to MI between Carr and Harbaugh, or look at Nebraska today (one of the most storied programs in college football with rabid fans, great facilities, and solid recruiting). That could be us. Fickell could be our RichRod changing the scheme, changing the recruiting, and losing an already fickle and quick to bail fan base. If it goes this way it may never come back. Barry was a great but also lucky hire. Other than Fickell, no other hot coach in demand has wanted this job despite 2 recent openings when Anderson and Chryst were hired. If the program tanks, it will take another Barry to resurrect it, and those guys are hard to come by. Chance of this scenario less than 20%.
3) Fickell spends the next 6-9 years at UW and wins about 9 games a year. He has a couple years where we overperform and make it into an expanded playoff with 11-12 wins, and a few years we underperform and barely make a bowl game. Sound familiar? It should because this is what we are. We won’t get to the next level because of recruiting. Fickell said in his press conference we will recruit “within the 300 mile radius”. That’s because almost all kids stay within that range of home when picking a school. We just don’t have enough 4 and 5 star kids within 300 miles to compete with schools in Ohio, Florida, Texas, etc. that have 10 times what we have right next to home. We will bring in 3 star kids, we will develop them, we will get some special kids here and there that take us to double digit wins. That won’t sustain a championship level program though year in and year out, you just need more 4 and 5 star kids that live nearby, and we just don’t have that. Chance of this scenario- greater than 75%.
Chorlton, it's that time again. Time for me to embarrass you by picking the rest of the Big Ten tournament.
Yes, we forgot about Wednesday. But Wednesday is the play-in day. Those games don't count.
Here we go - get your picks in or lose by default. I've spent no time thinking about this, so I'm about to intuit the future.
THURSDAY
Indiana over Michigan
MSU over Maryland
Iowa over Northwestern
Ohio St. over Penn St.
FRIDAY
Indiana over Illinois
MSU over Wisconsin
Purdue over Ohio St.
Iowa over Rutgers
SATURDAY
Iowa over Indiana
Purdue over MSU
SUNDAY
Purdue over Iowa